This interview contains descriptions of alcohol use from an early age, stressful relationships with whānau, arrests, and hospitalisation from drinking. It may bring back traumatic memories for some listeners. Please seek help if you need it at any point.
"Getting put in police cells to sober up, drink driving, crashing cars, being in car accidents with other drunk drivers, losing jobs, getting thrown out of moving cars..."End Quote
"When I look back at that stuff now it seems like this hazy fog way, way back in the distance and sometimes, it may sound a bit weird, but sometimes it feels like a dream. It’s weird."End Quote
"It’s pretty hard when you’re waking up and you’re saying, “I’m not going to drink today,” and then hop back on it. You’re back on it again. It’s like, where was it? Where was the fight to not do this?"End Quote
"I saw the bigger picture, and for me I saw what was happening to people around me and it was from that point almost that I knew that it was okay, not that it was wrong, but I finally felt like I fitted in. Well, actually, I figured out I didn’t have to fit in. I didn’t have to fit in with nobody, I just had to be comfortable in my own skin and have my connection to the whenua."End Quote
"I still have the same problems I had, but I’ve learned how to deal with them."End Quote
"Sometimes we only know what we know. So if we grew up in a family where there was lots of alcohol and drugs ... it’s not the only way."End Quote